Posts by Designer Stubble

recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".

her response went something like this, " we are all out!

everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..

Designer Stubble

Wow - thanks for sharing! Great news!

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Convention visit observations

by Gorbatchov in

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this weekend we visited the convention.

my findings:.

- no jw.org marketing here at this moment.

Designer Stubble

My aging JW-mother attended the convention recently and told me (her apostate son) that she was not impressed. No real new publications, everything electronic, which she can't comprehend. She really came back exhausted and not refreshed. Sad - if she was younger I would try to wake her up.

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Banner seen at convention in Miami

by Indian Larry in

comments?.

[img]http://i59.tinypic.com/dfx6y9.jpg[/img].

Designer Stubble

This seems to be another religion than the one I grew up in...

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Something Big is Coming...

by notsurewheretogo in

the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".

Designer Stubble

144000 to become symbolic. 2014 to pass with nothing happening. More need for money.

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Tech49: Mini RC 2014 Review

by Tech49 in

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i attended the regional convention (district convention) over the last weekend, and thought i would spend a few minutes putting down some thoughts, for your amusement.

i will bounce around a bit, as my notes and thoughts were a little craaaaazy.. we met at one of the smaller venues on the west coast, with attendance around 7,000.

(28 baptized.... <.04%) we were tied in to the international convention in arlington, tx.. my first thought, only about 2 hours in, was how much this sounded like a plain old sales meeting!

Designer Stubble

http://jwfacts.com/images/millions_rutherford.jpg

Note the text at the left-side bottom. Here Rutherford himself states that it is to be taken literally.

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Solomon's Temple was there one??

by Crazyguy in

its interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.

what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??

there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.

Designer Stubble

How rich was Solomon and where did it came from? i.e. how much gold and silver did he use to built the temple? How big was the temple? (size and volume?) compare the two. Check the gold production between 1492 and 1700 in Spain as compared to the absolute deplorable state of the mineral deposits in Israel and compare it the world power Egypt....... Use the bible text and do the math.

When Solomon built the temple he used iron, silver and gold. 1 Chron 22:14. A talent of gold was 34,2 kilo's with a density of 19.2 kilo's per liter.
100.000 talents of gold* 34,2 kilo's = 3.420.000 kilo's = 176.288 liter (1000 liter = 1m³) 176 m³ ...... = 5 * 5 * 5 meters of solid gold. or clothed walls with a thickness of 2 mm = 0,002 m * 20 meters high * 4400 meters long.

In current dollars that would be:
120,636,949.867632 * gold price per Oz. Comex Gold price: 1,608 = $ 194 billion. That almost equals the amount of all home owners in the US to maintain, alter their houses in 2005.

Or to put it into perspective: The below item had a modest costs of only 1.5 billion.

Israel/ Palestine is to poor on resources. So these had to be imported. The bible handbook says this amount of gold is 3x the amount of gold produced in the period: 1492 - 1700 by Spain (this includes the complete sacking of all Inca and Aztec temples stacked with gold)

1,000,000 talents of silver * 34.2 = 34,200,000 kilo's.....I don't even want to go into this. This 3,100 m³ is more than the volume of the temple itself.

1,206,369,498.67632 Oz * $ 28.74 = 34.671 billion

So, not counting the stone and masonry, transport, labor, the expensive wood from the Lebanon: the initial costs is about 270 billion $ is today's currency and value.

Now that is a stimulus package avant la lettre.

But to break it really down:

Topping the list is another Las Vegas structure, Wynn Las Vegas. Built in 2005, the building comes with a stunning $2.7 billion price tag. It is the world’s most expensive resort. There’s even a Ferrari-Maserati dealership on site. It’s famous nightclub, Tryst, has a towering waterfall and its own lake.

Ok. For the sake of argument. Let's try another. Surely the later stories are more believable and exact, right?
Point number 4:
How many animals were slaughtered at the dedication of the temple? What does that mean in logistical terms? How to get those animals there in Jerusalem. How to dispose of the less desirable items? What would you need to burn such an amount of carcasses? How did the Nazis try to solve that puzzle? Read the bible text and do the math.

Solomon sacrificed 2,000 oxen and 120 thousand sheep..........well rather massacred them in just 7 days. In 7 days they were able to burn 142,000 carcasses and disposed of the dirty stuff. 7 days * 24 hours a day = 168 hours. 845 carcasses per hour. That would indicate the complete burning of a carcass every 4 seconds.................

This is taken from: http://www.strategy-ec.co.uk about burning of carcasses along the lines of European regulations when the mad cows disease struck:

Intervention Costs:
Equipment Hire of machinery and equipment.
Consumables To destroy 250 carcasses the following are required; 250 railway sleepers, 250 bales of straw, 6.250 kg of kindling wood, 50.750 kg of coal, 1 gallon of diesel oil per metre length of pyre.
Operator time Time to prepare pyres varies with the machinery and workforce available. Pyres burn continuously for 2 to 3 days.

Just imagine those Jerusalem nike wearing sheepherders doing this ... So, where the EU had pyres burning for say 2.5 days for 250 carcasses, they did it in 4 seconds. Miracle! right?

Here's something about the waste: every 1000 kilo's of animal produces about 350 kilo of ash. Say an average sheep weighs 40 kilo. 120,000 sheep would therefore yield: 120,000 * 40 = 4,800,000 / 1,000 kilo * 350 = 1,680,000 kilo's of ash. Let's assume a density of 636 kg per m³. = 2,641 m³ .......... Let's imagine a hill with a base of 20 by 20 meters. It would be 60 meters high!

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I have to admit this, and you're not going to like it

by stillin in

the society has improved their game.

i just got home from the regional assembly.

it was a well-choreographed, technically excellent affair.

Designer Stubble

Do you mean they tickled your ears?

2 tim 4:3 - You’re going to find that there will be times when people will have no stomach for solid teaching, but will fill up on spiritual junk food—catchy opinions that tickle their fancy. They’ll turn their backs on truth and chase mirages.